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Guantanamo Bay detainee speaks at Cathedral
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| TORTURED: Moazzam Begg |
IN 2001 Moazzam Begg, a British citizen, travelled to Afghanistan to start a girls' school with his wife.
Within a year he had been captured by American forces as part of the "war on terror" and was transported to Guantanamo Bay, where he was kept without charge until his eventual release in 2005.
Mr Begg was at Blackburn Cathedral today speaking about his experiences, which he said included being tortured and held in solitary confinement.
MOAZZAM Begg said he knew what it was like "not to have a voice".
And he said he therefore believed that members of all faith communities in East Lancashire needed to make sure they articulated well - and avoided violence.
He said he wanted to tell all people, not just Muslims, that they have a voice.
He was invited to Black-burn Cathedral for the final Crypt Conversation, a series of lunchtime dialogues which are designed for reflection and discussion so different people can find common ground.
Mr Begg said: "I want to tell normal people that you have the chance to make yourself heard and it doesn't need violence.
"I have learnt a lot through all that I have experienced and I know that only those who are imprisoned do not have a voice. Everyone else can articulate themselves and try to make a difference.
"It is when discussions and dialogue fails that problems start and that is relevant in East Lancashire as much as it is anywhere in the world."
Mr Begg has had a lot of time to think things over.
Often kept in solitary confinement he said that he came to accept his position as a prisoner and his faith helped him through.
Speaking at the debate he said: "A central part of Muslim faith is a belief in fate. I knew everything that happens is meant to be and I would be released eventually.
"After a while I thought - What can they do? If they take me away from my home then it is a holiday.
"If they put me in solitary confinement then it is a place for meditation. If I am killed then I become a martyr."
Mr Begg, from Birming-ham, said he travelled to Afghanistan in 2001 where he built a girls' school near the capital Kabul, despite the Taliban policy against women's education.
He had travelled with his wife and three children.
He had previously visited Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bosnia, Afghanistan and Turkey and said he was motivated by "a desire to support Muslim human-itarian causes".
Following the September 11 attacks in New York and the war in Afghanistan Mr Begg said he fled the American bombings to North Pakistan where he was staying with family.
On January 31, 2002, he said he was captured at the house in Pakistan and taken to a prison at Bagram air base near Kabul.
Mr Begg, who is now a human rights organisation spokesperson, said: "My first though was - Why me? I think it was because of my aid work in the 1990s and my support for Muslims who had been tortured and abused across the world."
He said at Bagram he was shackled, spat at, punched, kicked and attacked by dogs.
Mr Begg said: "I was interrogated with a loaded gun to my head while on my knees with my hands tied behind my back to my legs.
"I was not given access to my family and on one occasion I was shown pictures of my children and was told that a woman's screams I could hear in a nearby room were my wife's.
After an "unbearable" 11 months at Bagram he was taken to Guantanamo Bay, an American-run prisoner camp in Cuba.
He said he was looking forward to his new surroundings.
He said: "I knew nothing could be as bad as Bagram."
But at Guantanamo he said he was in for a shock. He said he was held in a tiny cage almost entirely in solitary confinement.
He said that necessities such as toilet paper, drinking water and the chance to brush his teeth were "privileges" that had to be earned.
Mr Begg said he struggled to keep sane, but books he was allowed to read helped him through.
He said: "I memorised large parts of the Koran and studied languages.
"I memorised the periodic tables and did a lot of push-ups."
Eventually he was released in 2005 after three years apart from his family.
His wife gave birth to his fourth child five months after he was first captured and he only saw the youngster for the first time when he was almost three-years-old.
He has now written a book, Enemy Combatant: A British Muslim's Journey to Guantanamo and Back, and has taken part in many debates and talks on his experiences.
He said he is still angry about his capture: "I was released thanks to British diplomatic efforts.
"I faced no trial or explanation for why I was held and I was offered no apology or compensation."
4:22pm Tuesday 18th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Bill Hicks, UK on 9:06pm Tue 18 Mar 08
The American administration is full of liars and murderers. Why is nothing being done about this fascist regime?
The American administration is full of liars and murderers. Why is nothing being done about this fascist regime?
Posted by: JB, Accrington on 12:51pm Wed 19 Mar 08
While he was contributing to the educational needs of girls in Afghanistan, was his own family living on British benefits in the UK
While he was contributing to the educational needs of girls in Afghanistan, was his own family living on British benefits in the UK
Posted by: Donna, Burnley on 2:54pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote]"He had travelled with his wife and three children."[/quote]
honestly, some commenters make me sick. this man tried to HELP the women oppressed by the taliban, raised money for the needy, was tortured and kept prisoner for several years and then released without charge, but you still feel the need to make offensive and racist remarks. you really have some growing up to do, and some tolerance to learn. not everyone with coloured skin is evil.
"He had travelled with his wife and three children."
honestly, some commenters make me sick. this man tried to HELP the women oppressed by the taliban, raised money for the needy, was tortured and kept prisoner for several years and then released without charge, but you still feel the need to make offensive and racist remarks. you really have some growing up to do, and some tolerance to learn. not everyone with coloured skin is evil.
Posted by: spin68, darwen on 9:02pm Wed 19 Mar 08
If he wants to help people why not do it in the country that supports him, his wife and kids. Sick of all these scrounging do gooders hopefully he`ll go back to afgan
If he wants to help people why not do it in the country that supports him, his wife and kids. Sick of all these scrounging do gooders hopefully he`ll go back to afgan
Posted by: Openminded, North west on 11:08pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]top cat[/bold] wrote:
SAME SCRIPT!!!INNOCENT MUSLIM!!!CANT BIELEVE HE WAS GIVEN A STAGE IN A CATHEDRAL..SEND HIM BACK ENGLANDS FED UP WITH SCROUNGING,LYING TERRORISTS..TAKING MONEY OUT OF ENGLAND..EVERY1S HAD ENOUGH[/quote] Obviously you have very litte intelligence and intellect, hence your factually vacant post. If was not innocent and posed a threat do you think the americans would release him? No way mate. As for scrounging and taking money out, well you have a cheek. Burnley is filled to rafters with white scroungers who don't want to work. As for taking money out of the UK, wake up you docile imbicile, the polish and eastern europeans are taking jobs which the lazy brits don't want to do and then send it back to their home country. I guess thats fine, coz they are white. You are a pathetic turd with a pea brain along with the other morons from burnley and the big turn from accy.
top cat wrote:
SAME SCRIPT!!!INNOCENT MUSLIM!!!CANT BIELEVE HE WAS GIVEN A STAGE IN A CATHEDRAL..SEND HIM BACK ENGLANDS FED UP WITH SCROUNGING,LYING TERRORISTS..TAKING MONEY OUT OF ENGLAND..EVERY1S HAD ENOUGH
Obviously you have very litte intelligence and intellect, hence your factually vacant post. If was not innocent and posed a threat do you think the americans would release him? No way mate. As for scrounging and taking money out, well you have a cheek. Burnley is filled to rafters with white scroungers who don't want to work. As for taking money out of the UK, wake up you docile imbicile, the polish and eastern europeans are taking jobs which the lazy brits don't want to do and then send it back to their home country. I guess thats fine, coz they are white. You are a pathetic turd with a pea brain along with the other morons from burnley and the big turn from accy.
Posted by: vikingpower, blackburn on 4:13pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Openminded[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]top cat[/bold] wrote: SAME SCRIPT!!!INNOCENT MUSLIM!!!CANT BIELEVE HE WAS GIVEN A STAGE IN A CATHEDRAL..SEND HIM BACK ENGLANDS FED UP WITH SCROUNGING,LYING TERRORISTS..TAKING MONEY OUT OF ENGLAND..EVERY1S HAD ENOUGH[/quote] Obviously you have very litte intelligence and intellect, hence your factually vacant post. If was not innocent and posed a threat do you think the americans would release him? No way mate. As for scrounging and taking money out, well you have a cheek. Burnley is filled to rafters with white scroungers who don't want to work. As for taking money out of the UK, wake up you docile imbicile, the polish and eastern europeans are taking jobs which the lazy brits don't want to do and then send it back to their home country. I guess thats fine, coz they are white. You are a pathetic turd with a pea brain along with the other morons from burnley and the big turn from accy.[/quote] Not that openminded i see!
Openminded wrote:
top cat wrote: SAME SCRIPT!!!INNOCENT MUSLIM!!!CANT BIELEVE HE WAS GIVEN A STAGE IN A CATHEDRAL..SEND HIM BACK ENGLANDS FED UP WITH SCROUNGING,LYING TERRORISTS..TAKING MONEY OUT OF ENGLAND..EVERY1S HAD ENOUGH
Obviously you have very litte intelligence and intellect, hence your factually vacant post. If was not innocent and posed a threat do you think the americans would release him? No way mate. As for scrounging and taking money out, well you have a cheek. Burnley is filled to rafters with white scroungers who don't want to work. As for taking money out of the UK, wake up you docile imbicile, the polish and eastern europeans are taking jobs which the lazy brits don't want to do and then send it back to their home country. I guess thats fine, coz they are white. You are a pathetic turd with a pea brain along with the other morons from burnley and the big turn from accy.
Not that openminded i see!
Posted by: top cat, burnley on 7:58pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I AGREE WITH POLES COMING HERE..THERE CHRISTIANS,KEEP THE FAITH GOING,,,TO MUCH ANTI CHRISTIANITY GOING ON IN OUR CHRISTIAN COUNTRY...MORE POLES PLEASE
I AGREE WITH POLES COMING HERE..THERE CHRISTIANS,KEEP THE FAITH GOING,,,TO MUCH ANTI CHRISTIANITY GOING ON IN OUR CHRISTIAN COUNTRY...MORE POLES PLEASE
Posted by: Nelsoner, Nelson on 9:15pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Top cat - your comments are pretty embarassing to be honest, please do yourself a favour and refrain from posting.
Instead try reading the book written by Moazzem Begg, read articles and reports by humanitarian groups of the torture and injustices endorsed by THIS government (rendition flights, deportation to countries who practice torture etc) and learn of the torture carried out by 'our allies' in tackling terrorism. You think all coloured folk are the evils in society, i suggest you give your diet of CNN and The Sun a break and do some independent research.
Treating a person worse than dogs, is that not a form of terrorism? Incarcration for so mnay years without an explanation and apology, what makes ur American friends any better than those Muslims and coloured people you blatantly hate and accuse of bad things.
Its funny how so many detainees in Gitmo and even those arrested in this country for Terrorism are quietly released but when they are arrested it makes headline news.
Going back to the 'evil' Taliban, do you really think they would have allowed someone, especially a foreigner to set up a GIRLS school when it was prohibited? VArious independent charities from all over the world worked in Afghanistan, they were silenced from uttering the truth. These people only become evil when it suits the west.
Top cat - your comments are pretty embarassing to be honest, please do yourself a favour and refrain from posting.
Instead try reading the book written by Moazzem Begg, read articles and reports by humanitarian groups of the torture and injustices endorsed by THIS government (rendition flights, deportation to countries who practice torture etc) and learn of the torture carried out by 'our allies' in tackling terrorism. You think all coloured folk are the evils in society, i suggest you give your diet of CNN and The Sun a break and do some independent research.
Treating a person worse than dogs, is that not a form of terrorism? Incarcration for so mnay years without an explanation and apology, what makes ur American friends any better than those Muslims and coloured people you blatantly hate and accuse of bad things.
Its funny how so many detainees in Gitmo and even those arrested in this country for Terrorism are quietly released but when they are arrested it makes headline news.
Going back to the 'evil' Taliban, do you really think they would have allowed someone, especially a foreigner to set up a GIRLS school when it was prohibited? VArious independent charities from all over the world worked in Afghanistan, they were silenced from uttering the truth. These people only become evil when it suits the west.
Posted by: Openminded, North west on 10:08pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]top cat[/bold] wrote:
R.E OPENMINDED..AS FOR BEING DOCILE,I PROB EARN MORE IN A MONTH THAN YOU CAN CLAIM..LIKE I SAID SAME SCRIPT,LIKE BIRMINGHAM TERRORISTS LOT(THEY WERE INNOCENT TOO BY ASIAN COMMUNITY)WHOOPS!!!T HEY PLEADED GUILTY,THAT MESSED THINGS UP EH???[/quote] Yeh right, most likely peddling drugs or being a pimp! Some occupation. It is a pity that the poles have to be relied on to keep christianity going whilst the brits become more vacant and immoral. Oh yes the poles will keeo christianity but at what cost? You really haven't a clue, hence your posts which lack intelligence or intellect.
top cat wrote:
R.E OPENMINDED..AS FOR BEING DOCILE,I PROB EARN MORE IN A MONTH THAN YOU CAN CLAIM..LIKE I SAID SAME SCRIPT,LIKE BIRMINGHAM TERRORISTS LOT(THEY WERE INNOCENT TOO BY ASIAN COMMUNITY)WHOOPS!!!T HEY PLEADED GUILTY,THAT MESSED THINGS UP EH???
Yeh right, most likely peddling drugs or being a pimp! Some occupation. It is a pity that the poles have to be relied on to keep christianity going whilst the brits become more vacant and immoral. Oh yes the poles will keeo christianity but at what cost? You really haven't a clue, hence your posts which lack intelligence or intellect.
Posted by: Reality check, accrington on 12:29pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I gotta say some people who've posted comments here are so dumb(to put it simple). U need the poles to keep chrisitanity going(you sad people) why cant the chrisitians in this country keep chrisitianity going? Are they too busy claiming off the country or is it that they have no more morals left in them, they no longer know what hard work is and the difference between right and wrong. So you so called christians are happy with the poles coming in and taking the jobs so that leaves you to claim or make false claims? Top cat you're really pathetic it's time you grew up!!!!
I think people who make sad comments really should go through what Mohammed Begg went through then you'll realise!
I gotta say some people who've posted comments here are so dumb(to put it simple). U need the poles to keep chrisitanity going(you sad people) why cant the chrisitians in this country keep chrisitianity going? Are they too busy claiming off the country or is it that they have no more morals left in them, they no longer know what hard work is and the difference between right and wrong. So you so called christians are happy with the poles coming in and taking the jobs so that leaves you to claim or make false claims? Top cat you're really pathetic it's time you grew up!!!!
I think people who make sad comments really should go through what Mohammed Begg went through then you'll realise!
Posted by: Almas on 4:07am Tue 22 Apr 08
Thank you for this article David.
[bold]I'm just wondering how many other innocent people are suffering injustice?[/bold]
Thank you for this article David.
I'm just wondering how many other innocent people are suffering injustice?
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