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Amir's Union Flag 'sin' - Muslim cleric
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| The home page of Amir Khan's website with the boxer draped in the Union Flag |
Bolton boxer Amir Khan is setting a bad example to Muslims by wearing the Union Flag with pride, radical cleric Omar Bakri Mohammadit has been reported as saying.
"Amir Khan is not a good example for Muslims. He wears shorts with the Union Jack. That is a sin," he told The Sun newspaper.
"He should not be wearing the flag because sovereignty is for God. His only allegiance should be to the Prophet Mohammed.
"The ideal situation would be to have a Muslim team not registered to any state so he can represent the Islamic community."
The Commonwealth lightweight title-holder is draped with the Union Flag in photos on his official website and often wears shorts featuring the emblem.
The controversial preacher now lives in Lebanon after leaving north London in 2005.
9:22am Tuesday 25th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 9:32am Tue 25 Mar 08
Ere we go. It was only a matter of time.
Kick these clerics out of Britain.
Either that or get Amir to drive them out.
One sure quick way for a fast exit.
Ere we go. It was only a matter of time.
Kick these clerics out of Britain.
Either that or get Amir to drive them out.
One sure quick way for a fast exit.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 9:33am Tue 25 Mar 08
Khan and his team have been a PR disaster recently
However, I would think that even they can see that following the advice of this mad mullah, would in effect, alientate many of his British supporters and cast him as the bogeyman, when pitted against any non-Muslim opponent.
Khan and his team have been a PR disaster recently
However, I would think that even they can see that following the advice of this mad mullah, would in effect, alientate many of his British supporters and cast him as the bogeyman, when pitted against any non-Muslim opponent.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 9:36am Tue 25 Mar 08
Before the do gooders come on here is a little of this fellows profile :-
The self-styled radical cleric caused a media storm after the London bombings, declaring that the only people he blames for the London bombings are the government and British public.
Born Syria in 1958
Involved in Muslim Brotherhood
Travelled through Middle East
Established Al Muhajiroun
Sought asylum in the UK
"Disbanded" Al Muhajiroun in 2004
Suddenly left UK for Lebanon, August 2005
Send him back there if he is here.
Shut down that mosque on Blackburn road where his hatreds are preached.
Before the do gooders come on here is a little of this fellows profile :-
The self-styled radical cleric caused a media storm after the London bombings, declaring that the only people he blames for the London bombings are the government and British public.
Born Syria in 1958
Involved in Muslim Brotherhood
Travelled through Middle East
Established Al Muhajiroun
Sought asylum in the UK
"Disbanded" Al Muhajiroun in 2004
Suddenly left UK for Lebanon, August 2005
Send him back there if he is here.
Shut down that mosque on Blackburn road where his hatreds are preached.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 9:39am Tue 25 Mar 08
It is a terrible sin. He should be wearing the flag of St George.
It is a terrible sin. He should be wearing the flag of St George.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 9:43am Tue 25 Mar 08
A pre-emptive strike eh Rocky?
I prefer the feigned retreat and then kapow! a fork in the eye.
A pre-emptive strike eh Rocky?
I prefer the feigned retreat and then kapow! a fork in the eye.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 9:44am Tue 25 Mar 08
Rocky
Before throwing him out, shouldn't we give him a chance to swear his allegiance to the Queen and country?
Rocky
Before throwing him out, shouldn't we give him a chance to swear his allegiance to the Queen and country?
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 9:49am Tue 25 Mar 08
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 9:53am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?[/quote] not sure, who do you think will?
Andrew wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
not sure, who do you think will?
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 9:53am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?[/quote] Probably just King Pric, in order to shift the debate onto himself.
Andrew wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
Probably just King Pric, in order to shift the debate onto himself.
Posted by: chips otoole, monte carlo on 9:55am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote]Kick these clerics out of Britain.[/quote]
The rantings of an alcoholic.
Kick these clerics out of Britain.
The rantings of an alcoholic.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 9:56am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chips otoole[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Kick these clerics out of Britain.[/quote]
The rantings of an alcoholic.[/quote] You prefer that they stay?
chips otoole wrote:
Kick these clerics out of Britain.
The rantings of an alcoholic.
You prefer that they stay?
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 9:56am Tue 25 Mar 08
Islam is a peaceful religion and Amir should stop fighting?
Islam is a peaceful religion and Amir should stop fighting?
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 9:58am Tue 25 Mar 08
Amir doesn't fight, he competes in a sport.
Amir doesn't fight, he competes in a sport.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 9:58am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?[/quote] not sure, who do you think will?[/quote] No-one. Which makes the earlier comments redundant.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Andrew wrote: Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
not sure, who do you think will?
No-one. Which makes the earlier comments redundant.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 9:59am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?[/quote] People like you helped these nutters into Britain
Andrew wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
People like you helped these nutters into Britain
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:00am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chips otoole[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Kick these clerics out of Britain.[/quote]
The rantings of an alcoholic.[/quote] Those diet cola bubble really go to my head sometimes.
chips otoole wrote:
Kick these clerics out of Britain.
The rantings of an alcoholic.
Those diet cola bubble really go to my head sometimes.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:01am Tue 25 Mar 08
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school..
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school..
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:01am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?[/quote] People like you helped these nutters into Britain [/quote] Nice try Ian.
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
People like you helped these nutters into Britain
Nice try Ian.
Posted by: chips otoole, monte carlo on 10:03am Tue 25 Mar 08
Andrew
Why waste your time on these numbskulls ?
Andrew
Why waste your time on these numbskulls ?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:03am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?[/quote] Probably just King Pric, in order to shift the debate onto himself.[/quote] The otoole is Leroy. You know how he likes playing his part in amature dramatics.
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
Probably just King Pric, in order to shift the debate onto himself.
The otoole is Leroy. You know how he likes playing his part in amature dramatics.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school..
[/quote] Yeah, the NUT are really living up to their name.
We should be kicking religion out of school completly rather than talking about more of it.
The only time religion should be raised in school is in a History lesson.
RockyRereturns wrote:
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school..
Yeah, the NUT are really living up to their name.
We should be kicking religion out of school completly rather than talking about more of it.
The only time religion should be raised in school is in a History lesson.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school.. [/quote] Pardon? THe NUT wants to abolish faith schools and for comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc. Good to see you using the old BNP tactic of tarring all with the same brush. Of course you would use a BNP tactic being a BNP supporter who comes on here to promote BNP nonsense in an attempt to create hatred and division.
When you see someone supporting this 'cleric' have a pop. But you haven't and most likely won't unless some clone triues to stir.
RockyRereturns wrote:
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school..
Pardon? THe NUT wants to abolish faith schools and for comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc. Good to see you using the old BNP tactic of tarring all with the same brush. Of course you would use a BNP tactic being a BNP supporter who comes on here to promote BNP nonsense in an attempt to create hatred and division.
When you see someone supporting this 'cleric' have a pop. But you haven't and most likely won't unless some clone triues to stir.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 10:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
Why do people like this cleric get so much attention, anything he says should not be published anyway. This guy is a definate racist and should be locked up for trying to spread such hatred
Why do people like this cleric get so much attention, anything he says should not be published anyway. This guy is a definate racist and should be locked up for trying to spread such hatred
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?[/quote] People like you helped these nutters into Britain [/quote] Nice try Ian.[/quote] Paul if you don't mind Leroy
Andrew wrote:
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Who do you think ios going to agree with this cleric?
People like you helped these nutters into Britain
Nice try Ian.
Paul if you don't mind Leroy
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:06am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school.. [/quote] Pardon? THe NUT wants to abolish faith schools and for comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc. Good to see you using the old BNP tactic of tarring all with the same brush. Of course you would use a BNP tactic being a BNP supporter who comes on here to promote BNP nonsense in an attempt to create hatred and division.
When you see someone supporting this 'cleric' have a pop. But you haven't and most likely won't unless some clone triues to stir.[/quote] SO you would be ok with this cleric showing your kids how to make bombs?
Andrew wrote:
RockyRereturns wrote:
And to think the national union of teachers want these people teaching our kids in school..
Pardon? THe NUT wants to abolish faith schools and for comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc. Good to see you using the old BNP tactic of tarring all with the same brush. Of course you would use a BNP tactic being a BNP supporter who comes on here to promote BNP nonsense in an attempt to create hatred and division.
When you see someone supporting this 'cleric' have a pop. But you haven't and most likely won't unless some clone triues to stir.
SO you would be ok with this cleric showing your kids how to make bombs?
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:07am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote
comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote]
Are you in favour of this?
Andrew wrote
comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:08am Tue 25 Mar 08
Stupi, stupid question whgich underlines the stupidity of aligning this 'cleric' with the mainstrewam. Such stupidity to be expected of a BNP supporter I guess. Or maybe not stupidity but a lame attempt to stir. Whichever, back to the drawing board Ian.
Stupi, stupid question whgich underlines the stupidity of aligning this 'cleric' with the mainstrewam. Such stupidity to be expected of a BNP supporter I guess. Or maybe not stupidity but a lame attempt to stir. Whichever, back to the drawing board Ian.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:09am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote] Are you in favour of this? [/quote] Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:09am Tue 25 Mar 08
Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew.
Are you in favour or not?
Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew.
Are you in favour or not?
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:11am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?[/quote] Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.
Sun Tzu wrote:
Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?
Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 10:11am Tue 25 Mar 08
Has Nanny stopped the comments on the Blind story? Surely boxing can cause blindness.
Has Nanny stopped the comments on the Blind story? Surely boxing can cause blindness.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 10:11am Tue 25 Mar 08
I hardly think this cleric represents the majority, probably just better to ignore the clown.
I hardly think this cleric represents the majority, probably just better to ignore the clown.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:11am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote
comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote]
Are you in favour of this? [/quote] NO. definateley not.
Because Religious muslim schools WOULDN'T LET IN A CATHOLIC OR CHRISTIAN PRIEST.
So there would be no balance.
Were a 73% Christian country so where is the balance in that?
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote
comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
NO. definateley not.
Because Religious muslim schools WOULDN'T LET IN A CATHOLIC OR CHRISTIAN PRIEST.
So there would be no balance.
Were a 73% Christian country so where is the balance in that?
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:12am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
I hardly think this cleric represents the majority, probably just better to ignore the clown.[/quote] Exactly.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
I hardly think this cleric represents the majority, probably just better to ignore the clown.
Exactly.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:14am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote] Are you in favour of this? [/quote] NO. definateley not. Because Religious muslim schools WOULDN'T LET IN A CATHOLIC OR CHRISTIAN PRIEST. So there would be no balance. Were a 73% Christian country so where is the balance in that? [/quote] The NUT wants faith schools abolished. I did point this out earlier. So. No faith schools. Comparative RE taught in secular schools. You understand that.
Now, why not give the hobby horse a rest.
Is Amir's wearing of the flag a good or bad thing?
RockyRereturns wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote: Andrew wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
NO. definateley not. Because Religious muslim schools WOULDN'T LET IN A CATHOLIC OR CHRISTIAN PRIEST. So there would be no balance. Were a 73% Christian country so where is the balance in that?
The NUT wants faith schools abolished. I did point this out earlier. So. No faith schools. Comparative RE taught in secular schools. You understand that.
Now, why not give the hobby horse a rest.
Is Amir's wearing of the flag a good or bad thing?
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:14am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote] Are you in favour of this? [/quote] NO. definateley not. Because Religious muslim schools WOULDN'T LET IN A CATHOLIC OR CHRISTIAN PRIEST. So there would be no balance. Were a 73% Christian country so where is the balance in that? [/quote] The NUT wants faith schools abolished. I did point this out earlier. So. No faith schools. Comparative RE taught in secular schools. You understand that.
Now, why not give the hobby horse a rest.
Is Amir's wearing of the flag a good or bad thing?
RockyRereturns wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote: Andrew wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
NO. definateley not. Because Religious muslim schools WOULDN'T LET IN A CATHOLIC OR CHRISTIAN PRIEST. So there would be no balance. Were a 73% Christian country so where is the balance in that?
The NUT wants faith schools abolished. I did point this out earlier. So. No faith schools. Comparative RE taught in secular schools. You understand that.
Now, why not give the hobby horse a rest.
Is Amir's wearing of the flag a good or bad thing?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:15am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?[/quote] Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.[/quote] Bet you thought I stood in Bury for Veritas as well didn't you?
What an Idiot.
Your BNP Andrew hobbyhoarse is like a dry sore throat.
No one can hear you properly and the shouting has left you voiceless.
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?
Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.
Bet you thought I stood in Bury for Veritas as well didn't you?
What an Idiot.
Your BNP Andrew hobbyhoarse is like a dry sore throat.
No one can hear you properly and the shouting has left you voiceless.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:15am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote] Are you in favour of this? [/quote] Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.[/quote] So where do we draw the line?
Do we allow crackpot cults into schools? Because in your world of equality we will have to.
If my son decides he worships Iron Maiden does he get a lesson playing on his electric guitar?
It's a madmans charter to allow religions to preach in schools. Before you know it religion would be taking up more time than [italic]real[/italic] subject and our education system would be in a bigger mess than it is now. Not to mention screwing up kids minds with conflicting messages.
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.
So where do we draw the line?
Do we allow crackpot cults into schools? Because in your world of equality we will have to.
If my son decides he worships Iron Maiden does he get a lesson playing on his electric guitar?
It's a madmans charter to allow religions to preach in schools. Before you know it religion would be taking up more time than
real subject and our education system would be in a bigger mess than it is now. Not to mention screwing up kids minds with conflicting messages.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:15am Tue 25 Mar 08
Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.
Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:16am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote] Are you in favour of this? [/quote] Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.[/quote] So where do we draw the line? Do we allow crackpot cults into schools? Because in your world of equality we will have to. If my son decides he worships Iron Maiden does he get a lesson playing on his electric guitar? It's a madmans charter to allow religions to preach in schools. Before you know it religion would be taking up more time than [italic]real[/italic] subject and our education system would be in a bigger mess than it is now. Not to mention screwing up kids minds with conflicting messages.[/quote] It's not preaching. It's comparative RE. Don't be so hysterical. Do you not think kids are taught about the [bold]world's major religions[/bold] now?
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote: Sun Tzu wrote: Andrew wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.
So where do we draw the line? Do we allow crackpot cults into schools? Because in your world of equality we will have to. If my son decides he worships Iron Maiden does he get a lesson playing on his electric guitar? It's a madmans charter to allow religions to preach in schools. Before you know it religion would be taking up more time than real subject and our education system would be in a bigger mess than it is now. Not to mention screwing up kids minds with conflicting messages.
It's not preaching. It's comparative RE. Don't be so hysterical. Do you not think kids are taught about the
world's major religions now?
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 10:16am Tue 25 Mar 08
Andrew
Imams are racists. Are they also members of the BNP?
Andrew
Imams are racists. Are they also members of the BNP?
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:18am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
Andrew Imams are racists. Are they also members of the BNP?[/quote] Be quiet Chas. You're out of you depth. Remarkable given these comments are paddling in the intellectual shallow end.
chas wrote:
Andrew Imams are racists. Are they also members of the BNP?
Be quiet Chas. You're out of you depth. Remarkable given these comments are paddling in the intellectual shallow end.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:18am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.[/quote] ~Andrew the interfaith lot ARE NOT A LOAD OF NUTTERS WANTING TO BLOW PEOPLE UP.
Andrew wrote:
Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.
~Andrew the interfaith lot ARE NOT A LOAD OF NUTTERS WANTING TO BLOW PEOPLE UP.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:19am Tue 25 Mar 08
Andrew .,
Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith?
Andrew .,
Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:20am Tue 25 Mar 08
or laugh as being jewish should I say!!!!
Please give me an example of ANY muslim who has laughed at himself.
or laugh as being jewish should I say!!!!
Please give me an example of ANY muslim who has laughed at himself.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:20am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.[/quote] Are you in favour of this? [/quote] Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.[/quote] So where do we draw the line? Do we allow crackpot cults into schools? Because in your world of equality we will have to. If my son decides he worships Iron Maiden does he get a lesson playing on his electric guitar? It's a madmans charter to allow religions to preach in schools. Before you know it religion would be taking up more time than [italic]real[/italic] subject and our education system would be in a bigger mess than it is now. Not to mention screwing up kids minds with conflicting messages.[/quote] It's not preaching. It's comparative RE. Don't be so hysterical. Do you not think kids are taught about the [bold]world's major religions[/bold] now?[/quote] Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote: Sun Tzu wrote: Andrew wrote comparative RE to be taught, with visiting priests, imans, rabbies etc.
Are you in favour of this?
Yes. Understanding people's faith can't be a bad thing. I'd much prefer comparative RE to faith schools, regardless of faith.
So where do we draw the line? Do we allow crackpot cults into schools? Because in your world of equality we will have to. If my son decides he worships Iron Maiden does he get a lesson playing on his electric guitar? It's a madmans charter to allow religions to preach in schools. Before you know it religion would be taking up more time than real subject and our education system would be in a bigger mess than it is now. Not to mention screwing up kids minds with conflicting messages.
It's not preaching. It's comparative RE. Don't be so hysterical. Do you not think kids are taught about the world's major religions now?
Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:20am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?[/quote] Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.[/quote] Bet you thought I stood in Bury for Veritas as well didn't you? What an Idiot. Your BNP Andrew hobbyhoarse is like a dry sore throat. No one can hear you properly and the shouting has left you voiceless. [/quote] No. Thought you stood in Bolton. Thought you found them not extreme and/or organised enough, hence the jump to the BNP ship which you've made so spectacularly obvious.
No, I won't let it lie.
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Sun Tzu wrote: Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?
Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.
Bet you thought I stood in Bury for Veritas as well didn't you? What an Idiot. Your BNP Andrew hobbyhoarse is like a dry sore throat. No one can hear you properly and the shouting has left you voiceless.
No. Thought you stood in Bolton. Thought you found them not extreme and/or organised enough, hence the jump to the BNP ship which you've made so spectacularly obvious.
No, I won't let it lie.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:22am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith? [/quote] Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith?
Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:22am Tue 25 Mar 08
"Unbeknownst to you"
Andrew , Leroys pretentiousness shows through..
Keep it up..
"Unbeknownst to you"
Andrew , Leroys pretentiousness shows through..
Keep it up..
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:24am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.[/quote] ~Andrew the interfaith lot ARE NOT A LOAD OF NUTTERS WANTING TO BLOW PEOPLE UP. [/quote] No mate. You appeared earlier to suggest this cleric was representative of all. I pointed out this was toital nonsense designed to spread hate and you got all uptonny. Sorry, uppity.
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.
~Andrew the interfaith lot ARE NOT A LOAD OF NUTTERS WANTING TO BLOW PEOPLE UP.
No mate. You appeared earlier to suggest this cleric was representative of all. I pointed out this was toital nonsense designed to spread hate and you got all uptonny. Sorry, uppity.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:24am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith? [/quote] Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.[/quote] Yes but she doesn't count in Mulsim terms becasue she is a woman.
Woman are thought of as the lesser species in a Muslim world so I ask again
TELL ME OF ANY MALE MUSLIM.
Andrew wrote:
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith?
Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.
Yes but she doesn't count in Mulsim terms becasue she is a woman.
Woman are thought of as the lesser species in a Muslim world so I ask again
TELL ME OF ANY MALE MUSLIM.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 10:25am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote: Andrew Imams are racists. Are they also members of the BNP?[/quote] Be quiet Chas. You're out of you depth. Remarkable given these comments are paddling in the intellectual shallow end.[/quote] Please forgive me for making a comment. I look up to my superiors, but look down on you.
Andrew wrote:
chas wrote: Andrew Imams are racists. Are they also members of the BNP?
Be quiet Chas. You're out of you depth. Remarkable given these comments are paddling in the intellectual shallow end.
Please forgive me for making a comment. I look up to my superiors, but look down on you.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:26am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?[/quote] Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.[/quote] Bet you thought I stood in Bury for Veritas as well didn't you? What an Idiot. Your BNP Andrew hobbyhoarse is like a dry sore throat. No one can hear you properly and the shouting has left you voiceless. [/quote] No. Thought you stood in Bolton. Thought you found them not extreme and/or organised enough, hence the jump to the BNP ship which you've made so spectacularly obvious.
No, I won't let it lie.[/quote] Andrew smoke and Mirrors I didnt stand anywhere but I read that the person you think I am stood in Bury your home town.
Back on the BNP ship I see..
Andrew mud sticks and all that...
Andrew wrote:
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Sun Tzu wrote: Stop banging on about the BNP Andrew. Are you in favour or not?
Ian's BNP support is pertinent given the malicious and stupid nature of his posting. No one is supporting this 'cleric' and yet he's off trying to suggest people do and equating all imams with this bloke. Not big. Not clever. To be expected.
Bet you thought I stood in Bury for Veritas as well didn't you? What an Idiot. Your BNP Andrew hobbyhoarse is like a dry sore throat. No one can hear you properly and the shouting has left you voiceless.
No. Thought you stood in Bolton. Thought you found them not extreme and/or organised enough, hence the jump to the BNP ship which you've made so spectacularly obvious.
No, I won't let it lie.
Andrew smoke and Mirrors I didnt stand anywhere but I read that the person you think I am stood in Bury your home town.
Back on the BNP ship I see..
Andrew mud sticks and all that...
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:28am Tue 25 Mar 08
Andrew - For the third time.
Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
(Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}
Andrew - For the third time.
Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
(Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:29am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.[/quote] ~Andrew the interfaith lot ARE NOT A LOAD OF NUTTERS WANTING TO BLOW PEOPLE UP. [/quote] No mate. You appeared earlier to suggest this cleric was representative of all. I pointed out this was toital nonsense designed to spread hate and you got all uptonny. Sorry, uppity.[/quote] Andrew more Leroyisms again.
You have well and truly ousted yourself.
How's that bluetooth access on your Iphone?
do you share those pictures of goats?
Andrew wrote:
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Another thing. Unbeknownst to you, clearly, there are many inter-faith groups which see Muslims, Jews, CofE et working together with mutual respect of each others faiths.
~Andrew the interfaith lot ARE NOT A LOAD OF NUTTERS WANTING TO BLOW PEOPLE UP.
No mate. You appeared earlier to suggest this cleric was representative of all. I pointed out this was toital nonsense designed to spread hate and you got all uptonny. Sorry, uppity.
Andrew more Leroyisms again.
You have well and truly ousted yourself.
How's that bluetooth access on your Iphone?
do you share those pictures of goats?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:30am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith? [/quote] Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.[/quote] Yes but she doesn't count in Mulsim terms becasue she is a woman.
Woman are thought of as the lesser species in a Muslim world so I ask again
TELL ME OF ANY MALE MUSLIM.[/quote] Leroy I await you're riposte.
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote:
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith?
Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.
Yes but she doesn't count in Mulsim terms becasue she is a woman.
Woman are thought of as the lesser species in a Muslim world so I ask again
TELL ME OF ANY MALE MUSLIM.
Leroy I await you're riposte.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 10:31am Tue 25 Mar 08
Personally I think the islamic faith has 2 sides to it. 1st being just normal islam which is your typical everyday person that has a faith and the 2nd being islamic extremism which is complety OTT and has no place in Western culture.
Personally I think the islamic faith has 2 sides to it. 1st being just normal islam which is your typical everyday person that has a faith and the 2nd being islamic extremism which is complety OTT and has no place in Western culture.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:31am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Andrew - For the third time.
Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
(Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}[/quote] In the line of fire Sun the cowards run away.
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew - For the third time.
Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
(Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}
In the line of fire Sun the cowards run away.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:33am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Andrew - For the third time.
Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
(Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}[/quote] In the line of fire Sun the cowards run away.
[/quote] It's the fork in the eye I spoke of earlier.
RockyRereturns wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew - For the third time.
Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too?
And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality?
(Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}
In the line of fire Sun the cowards run away.
It's the fork in the eye I spoke of earlier.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:33am Tue 25 Mar 08
Sun,
Do you know even with ITV2 Coronation Street doesn't get repeated this often.
Sun,
Do you know even with ITV2 Coronation Street doesn't get repeated this often.
Posted by: yummymummy, bolton on 10:34am Tue 25 Mar 08
this guy has the nerve to call amir a 'jahil' and a deviant for wearing shorts emblazoned with the union jack, then goes on to say he's not a good role model for young people, hasn't amir opened a gym for young people to get them off the streets of broken britain? and bakri is now forced into living in exile in lebenon due to preaching to anyone dumb enough to listen that the'll live in paradise should they fly a plane into downing street. yeah cause thats a sensible law abiding role model NOT! keep him out of our country for good. we dont need anymore facist hypocritical spongers leeching off our society.
this guy has the nerve to call amir a 'jahil' and a deviant for wearing shorts emblazoned with the union jack, then goes on to say he's not a good role model for young people, hasn't amir opened a gym for young people to get them off the streets of broken britain? and bakri is now forced into living in exile in lebenon due to preaching to anyone dumb enough to listen that the'll live in paradise should they fly a plane into downing street. yeah cause thats a sensible law abiding role model NOT! keep him out of our country for good. we dont need anymore facist hypocritical spongers leeching off our society.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 10:34am Tue 25 Mar 08
Gazz
Do you mean one has been westernised, which is against their religion?
Gazz
Do you mean one has been westernised, which is against their religion?
Posted by: Le Roi on 10:34am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote]Shut down that mosque on Blackburn road where his hatreds are preached[/quote]
Please show us the evidence for this, otherwise it's a racist slur.
Put up or shut up Rocky.
Shut down that mosque on Blackburn road where his hatreds are preached
Please show us the evidence for this, otherwise it's a racist slur.
Put up or shut up Rocky.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:36am Tue 25 Mar 08
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:37am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Le Roi[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Shut down that mosque on Blackburn road where his hatreds are preached[/quote]
Please show us the evidence for this, otherwise it's a racist slur.
Put up or shut up Rocky.[/quote] Oh and now the master appears....
Thanks Andrew..
Ask the men in those old range rovers sat outside
They often frequent the building with blacked out windows sat on the river thames.
Le Roi wrote:
Shut down that mosque on Blackburn road where his hatreds are preached
Please show us the evidence for this, otherwise it's a racist slur.
Put up or shut up Rocky.
Oh and now the master appears....
Thanks Andrew..
Ask the men in those old range rovers sat outside
They often frequent the building with blacked out windows sat on the river thames.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:38am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?[/quote] Oh yes. As well as him logging off then Back on again as Leroy.
The plan worked..
Well done lads we caught out the chair of Chorltons Amature dramatics society
Sun Tzu wrote:
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?
Oh yes. As well as him logging off then Back on again as Leroy.
The plan worked..
Well done lads we caught out the chair of Chorltons Amature dramatics society
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:39am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Andrew - For the third time. Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too? And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality? (Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}[/quote] I guess my previous emboldening of the [bold]world's major religions[/bold] wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Ian, you have demonstrated your support for the BNP on here. Don't try and re-write history in the way you try to rewrite the present.
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew - For the third time. Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too? And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality? (Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}
I guess my previous emboldening of the
world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Ian, you have demonstrated your support for the BNP on here. Don't try and re-write history in the way you try to rewrite the present.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:39am Tue 25 Mar 08
I wonder where ANDREW HAS GONE??????
I wonder where ANDREW HAS GONE??????
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:40am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Andrew - For the third time. Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too? And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality? (Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}[/quote] I guess my previous emboldening of the [bold]world's major religions[/bold] wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Ian, you have demonstrated your support for the BNP on here. Don't try and re-write history in the way you try to rewrite the present.
[/quote] IAN?
Oh pluuurrrease ....come on Leroy...
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew - For the third time. Do we allow minor faiths and crackpot cults in too? And if not, how can we justify it in todays world of equality? (Andrew won't/can't answer this question and is now franticaly trying to get this thread closed.}
I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Ian, you have demonstrated your support for the BNP on here. Don't try and re-write history in the way you try to rewrite the present.
IAN?
Oh pluuurrrease ....come on Leroy...
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:41am Tue 25 Mar 08
Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence.
I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.
Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence.
I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:41am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?[/quote] Er, did you notice Ian's tactic of using a story upion which I'm sure opinion is not divided, to try and create division and hatred. In that context, highlighting his BNP support makes sound sense.
Sun Tzu wrote:
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?
Er, did you notice Ian's tactic of using a story upion which I'm sure opinion is not divided, to try and create division and hatred. In that context, highlighting his BNP support makes sound sense.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:42am Tue 25 Mar 08
Leroy talking of evidence where is the names of those customers of Tubbys who you claim weren't pleased?????
Leroy talking of evidence where is the names of those customers of Tubbys who you claim weren't pleased?????
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:42am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence. I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.[/quote] Report your suspicions. You know BN doesn't like clones. Off you go. See how far you and your ill founded suspicions get you.
Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?
Sun Tzu wrote:
Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence. I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.
Report your suspicions. You know BN doesn't like clones. Off you go. See how far you and your ill founded suspicions get you.
Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?
Posted by: Le Roi on 10:43am Tue 25 Mar 08
Le Roi is Le Roi.
Often copied, sometimes cloned,never equalled.
Like his team he bestrides the forum from the summit.
Le Roi is Le Roi.
Often copied, sometimes cloned,never equalled.
Like his team he bestrides the forum from the summit.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:43am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote
I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?[/quote]
Who decides which is major and which is minor?
Andrew wrote
I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Who decides which is major and which is minor?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:44am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?[/quote] Er, did you notice Ian's tactic of using a story upion which I'm sure opinion is not divided, to try and create division and hatred. In that context, highlighting his BNP support makes sound sense.[/quote] Andrew there is only you who mentioned BNP as you do every time ANYONE posts anything to your contrary views.
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?
Er, did you notice Ian's tactic of using a story upion which I'm sure opinion is not divided, to try and create division and hatred. In that context, highlighting his BNP support makes sound sense.
Andrew there is only you who mentioned BNP as you do every time ANYONE posts anything to your contrary views.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:45am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?[/quote] Who decides which is major and which is minor? [/quote] It's not hard. You do so love looking for obstacles where none exists. Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Who decides which is major and which is minor?
It's not hard. You do so love looking for obstacles where none exists. Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:47am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence. I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.[/quote] Report your suspicions. You know BN doesn't like clones. Off you go. See how far you and your ill founded suspicions get you.
Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?[/quote] It's easy when you have a iphone in one hand and laptop in the other.
Yes you even get different IP addresses but then without contrast you actually pretend to know something about Technology just like Leroy did but both of you cam unstuck.
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence. I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.
Report your suspicions. You know BN doesn't like clones. Off you go. See how far you and your ill founded suspicions get you.
Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?
It's easy when you have a iphone in one hand and laptop in the other.
Yes you even get different IP addresses but then without contrast you actually pretend to know something about Technology just like Leroy did but both of you cam unstuck.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:47am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?[/quote] Er, did you notice Ian's tactic of using a story upion which I'm sure opinion is not divided, to try and create division and hatred. In that context, highlighting his BNP support makes sound sense.[/quote] Andrew there is only you who mentioned BNP as you do every time ANYONE posts anything to your contrary views.[/quote] No, I mention your BNP support in context. Please do not try and deny it again. It's tiresome. You're a supporter. Others are apologists like Boris and Sun.
Meanwhile, do you think Amir wearing the flag is a good or a bad thing?
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Sun Tzu wrote: Rock - Did you notice Andrew's tactic of diverting the thread to BNP in order to cause a race hate fest and get the thread closed?
Er, did you notice Ian's tactic of using a story upion which I'm sure opinion is not divided, to try and create division and hatred. In that context, highlighting his BNP support makes sound sense.
Andrew there is only you who mentioned BNP as you do every time ANYONE posts anything to your contrary views.
No, I mention your BNP support in context. Please do not try and deny it again. It's tiresome. You're a supporter. Others are apologists like Boris and Sun.
Meanwhile, do you think Amir wearing the flag is a good or a bad thing?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:47am Tue 25 Mar 08
Andrew you are the best advert the BNP have got.
Andrew you are the best advert the BNP have got.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:48am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote: Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence. I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.[/quote] Report your suspicions. You know BN doesn't like clones. Off you go. See how far you and your ill founded suspicions get you. Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?[/quote] It's easy when you have a iphone in one hand and laptop in the other. Yes you even get different IP addresses but then without contrast you actually pretend to know something about Technology just like Leroy did but both of you cam unstuck. [/quote] Well you glory in the time when you demonstyrated my lack of IT expertise. Now you think I'm a whizz.
I'd like an iphone but the contract and set charges put me off.
Think what you want mate. I don't care.
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: Sun Tzu wrote: Rock - You know I was very sceptical about King Pric and Andrew being one of the same but it's getting to be too much of coincidence. I'm now begining to believe that King Pric is all the crackpots on here.
Report your suspicions. You know BN doesn't like clones. Off you go. See how far you and your ill founded suspicions get you. Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?
It's easy when you have a iphone in one hand and laptop in the other. Yes you even get different IP addresses but then without contrast you actually pretend to know something about Technology just like Leroy did but both of you cam unstuck.
Well you glory in the time when you demonstyrated my lack of IT expertise. Now you think I'm a whizz.
I'd like an iphone but the contract and set charges put me off.
Think what you want mate. I don't care.
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 10:49am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
Has Nanny stopped the comments on the Blind story? Surely boxing can cause blindness.[/quote] I think it was closed because of the idiot (Donmarg) who posted somebody's personal details.
chas wrote:
Has Nanny stopped the comments on the Blind story? Surely boxing can cause blindness.
I think it was closed because of the idiot (Donmarg) who posted somebody's personal details.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 10:49am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote]Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?[/quote]
None, it's the cause of the world's ills.
Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?
None, it's the cause of the world's ills.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:50am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
Andrew you are the best advert the BNP have got. [/quote] Whatever you say Ian. You are a typical advert. Ignorant, bigoted, divisive and full to the brim with hate. As I say, please do not try and deny your support have so ably displayed it before.
Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew you are the best advert the BNP have got.
Whatever you say Ian. You are a typical advert. Ignorant, bigoted, divisive and full to the brim with hate. As I say, please do not try and deny your support have so ably displayed it before.
Now, is Amir wearing the flag a good or bad thing?
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 10:51am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?[/quote] Who decides which is major and which is minor? [/quote] It's not hard. You do so love looking for obstacles where none exists. Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?[/quote] It's very hard. All the so-called major religions you speak off were once minor, persecuted cults.
How can you justify not giving credence to a new religion consisting of a long hippy type and his twelve mates?
Not obstacles Andrew but big theological questions.
I already answered your question earlier. I would only allow it as part of history lessons.
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Who decides which is major and which is minor?
It's not hard. You do so love looking for obstacles where none exists. Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?
It's very hard. All the so-called major religions you speak off were once minor, persecuted cults.
How can you justify not giving credence to a new religion consisting of a long hippy type and his twelve mates?
Not obstacles Andrew but big theological questions.
I already answered your question earlier. I would only allow it as part of history lessons.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 10:51am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BORISIMO[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?[/quote] None, it's the cause of the world's ills.[/quote] Ignoring the fact that's no true, you think we just ignore religion. Make no effort to understand widely held beliefs and the role those beliefs play in people's lives. Brilliant.
Meanwhile, do you think Amir wearing the flag is a good or bad thing?
BORISIMO wrote:
Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?
None, it's the cause of the world's ills.
Ignoring the fact that's no true, you think we just ignore religion. Make no effort to understand widely held beliefs and the role those beliefs play in people's lives. Brilliant.
Meanwhile, do you think Amir wearing the flag is a good or bad thing?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 10:53am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Sun Tzu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?[/quote] Who decides which is major and which is minor? [/quote] It's not hard. You do so love looking for obstacles where none exists. Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?[/quote] You mean like the fact that only you are the first to mention BNP at any sign of losing the argument?
Amir should wear the St Georges flag because he is English First and British Second.
You don't see the Jamaicans wearing the commonwealth Flag do you?
Andrew wrote:
Sun Tzu wrote:
Andrew wrote I guess my previous emboldening of the world's major religions wasn't subtle enough for you Sun?
Who decides which is major and which is minor?
It's not hard. You do so love looking for obstacles where none exists. Tell me Sun, would you have no religion taught (not preached) in schools?
You mean like the fact that only you are the first to mention BNP at any sign of losing the argument?
Amir should wear the St Georges flag because he is English First and British Second.
You don't see the Jamaicans wearing the commonwealth Flag do you?
Posted by: Le Roi on 10:54am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote]I'd like an iphone but the contract and set charges put me off.[/quote]
Buy one and 'jailbreak' it so you can put any sim card in.
I'd like an iphone but the contract and set charges put me off.
Buy one and 'jailbreak' it so you can put any sim card in.
Posted by: player #1, Half the world away on 10:54am Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote: Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith? [/quote] Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.[/quote] Yes but she doesn't count in Mulsim terms becasue she is a woman. Woman are thought of as the lesser species in a Muslim world so I ask again TELL ME OF ANY MALE MUSLIM.[/quote] Azhar Usman, male, Muslim and heavily bearded, has learned to expect special treatment from immigration officials whenever he flies. But the 31-year-old Indian American has a technique to deflect any uncomfortable questioning. "I'm a licenced attornee, so if anyone asks me what I do, I tell them I'm a lawyer. That immediately tells them that I know my rights and not to mess with me." Should anyone want to know the precise nature of his present work, he tends to fudge his answers because he suspects the truth will not be believed: why risk trying to explain that he is, in fact, a Muslim stand-up comedian?
RockyRereturns wrote:
Andrew wrote: RockyRereturns wrote: Andrew ., Unlike a Rabbi (yes Rabbi) when ever have you heard a muslim make a joke about his own faith?
Shazia Mirza. Not a he though Ian.
Yes but she doesn't count in Mulsim terms becasue she is a woman. Woman are thought of as the lesser species in a Muslim world so I ask again TELL ME OF ANY MALE MUSLIM.
Azhar Usman, male, Muslim and heavily bearded, has learned to expect special treatment from
